Ed Schultz Brings on Markos Moulitsas to Respond to Matthews Netroots Insult
Wow. This is unusual. Ed Schultz does something you rarely see, criticize someone from his own network. Ed brings in Markos Moulitsas to respond to Chris Matthews insult of the netroots yesterday where he said we're not real Democrats and back-seat bitchers. John offered to debate Matthews yesterday. I wonder if we'll hear anything else from him on this now that Schultz had Moulitsas on. If Matthews wants to lob insults, I'd like to see him try to debate those he was insulting to their faces. I'm not holding my breath though. Good on Ed for giving Markos a chance to respond.
Moulitsas: You know in 2003 after ah--when Bush landed his plane on the aircraft carrier, behind the--spoke in front of the banner that said "mission accomplished", Chris Matthews had an entire show based on that event where he thought Bush was fantastic and he said "everybody knows that we won the war, except for a few critics". Well I was one of those few critics. People like me and the netroots were some of those critics and it turns out that we were right and the beltway conventional wisdom was wrong. And once again we're in a situation where people like Chris Matthews don't learn from these mistakes. They're sort of trapped in this bubble and and they think that they know better. The fact is most of the editors on Daily KOS either have worked on campaigns or worked on Hill staff and of my readers, I would venture to say the vast, vast majority knocked on doors, gave money, made phone calls on behalf of campaigns. They worked and they vote and if Chris Matthews is worried about us working and if he thinks that we're not Democrats, well then he really should be worried because he's got a thing coming.
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Moulitsas: You know ActBlue is an on line clearing house for contributions to Democratic party candidates. In the last four years we have raised $115 million through ActBlue... a $115 million. Now that's not a bunch of kids in the back seat donating $115 million, at an average donation of about $30. So we're talking little dollars here and there. There's a lot of us. We're engaged. We're involved and we want a party that represents the American people and a government that represents the American people, not insurance companies, not big business and clearly we're not quite there yet but we only started this battle a couple of years ago. We're still fighting.
Tweety took a slice of Ed's show yesterday in his assault on opponents of the current iteration of the H/C bill. Ed gives him an appropriate response.
It would be nice if Obama and (R)ahm paid attention. I won't hold my breath in anticipation.
Some stuff you can't make up!
in his assault on anybody opposing the hcr bill; guess he got the memo from the WH. I was wondering when/if Ed was going to respond.
Btw, very well done and devastating portrayal of Obama's selling out on hcr on Bill Moyer's the other night:
MOYERS: w/ Taibbi & Kuttner on Money and Politics
Ole Tweets tried to pimp slap Ed when Eddy was on Hardball for calling 'W' dumb (or something like that), so there might not be any love lost between those two.
Way to go Ed!
Progressives need to shut up: it unleashes the power of Democrats.
That's why the netroots will need to put a sock in it before the 2010 elections. And the 2012 elections.
If y'all had just sent some progressives to Copenhagen, you could have told them to shut up and got yourself a great agreement.
So I guess you think we should be happy with two corporate parties and no one holding any of them accountable for what they do? Unbelievable. And what is Matthews right about? That we're not real Democrats? That we don't vote? That we're children who need to be told to sit down and STFU if we don't agree with what's going on? That we're not involved in political campaigns? And what the hell does Copenhagen have to do with Tweety's remarks?
Just what would you like Democrats to be "unleashed" to do besides win elections for the sake of winning them? If they act as badly as Republicans, we need to be running primary challengers against them, and we also need to be putting pressure on them in the mean time to do the right thing. I'll put a sock in it when their actions start matching their rhetoric.
That last bit about Copenhagen was supposed to reveal the absurdity of my previous remarks.
The other gang does want to win for the sake of being in power. Triumphalism. Exceptionalism. And it's Anti-American to insult them for it.
It's interesting that Matthews sneers at the netroots as not being interested in governing-- I've not heard about his electoral win. Unless media triangulation is a new branch of government that hasn't made it into the marks' Civics lessons.
it sure didn't come off that way.
is that nowadays, NOTHING to too outrageous for someone to say and actually be serious. Witness the birthers...it's so incredibly dumb and offensive, yet they believe it. That's why when I snark, I snark safely...by adding a ;) or some acknowledgment, rather than just rely on others' good faith. That's the very sad world we've become.
Or sarah palin.
Even reality seems like a snark sometimes.
I remember when 9-11 happened my first reaction was, "Were they filming a movie?"
And a rich millionaire's son who turns mastermind of an international terrorist group sounds like a James Bond villain.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I don't know if it's snark so much as a summation of how progressive groups get treated on a regular basis by many identifying as Democrats. It's just missing one key ingredient:
Progressives need to shut up and like it: it unleashes the power of Democrats.
Here's Tweety just directing it toward the netroots, although I don't think he can be called a Democrat, so he's probably just rubbing people's face in it.
"a summation of how progressive groups get treated on a regular basis by many identifying as Democrats."
That's more what I was after: But, my bad, forgetting that calmly pointing out absurdities doesn't work anymore.
and he is just jealous of Ed, Rachel, and Keith. We abhor him, as we abhor Rahm Emanuel and the right wing Democrats. This includes the turncoat, Obama!
Thank you Ed, and thank you Markos.
Chris Matthews says the stupidest things. He can't control his mouth and pops off inappropriate and ignorant comments.
Indeed, Matthews often pops off, and spouts highly inconsistent views. But this time exposes his extreme arrogance (which has been consistent); a trait shared by a number of his fellow Washington cocktail circuit pundits.
Ratings are the reason he's given the platform. If he was still just a columnist, Tweety would probably tone it down by a magnitude of about 5.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
and tweety don't get along either, why do you think he uses Chris' laugh for the oddball segment?
I usually watch 'Ed' then flip to 'My Name is Earl' (more intellectual than 'Hardball') reruns, then back to 'Countdown' after that.
and has a much larger audience. MSNBC could do very well without tweety, but they could not do without Keith!!!
For something like 4 mill for 4-6 years. I forget for how long.
I don't watch him anymore. I can't do it. It's like watching Fux Nooz to me. I can't do it.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Reportedly Matthews was making $5mil and took a pay cut.
Matthews said
and rightfully so. He is nothing but a shill with a shrill voice!
Any bill with a mandate that forces citizens to give money to for profit companies, with not guarantee of actually receiving benifits (that means strick laws and large fine against the insurance companies comenserate with fines agains citizens) cannot be allowed into law.
Universal health care is the only answer to our health care crisis and it must have an an in option into medicare or, better, Congress's health care plan.
If for nothing else, Nelson and his anti abortion stance.
Abortion is already settled law. Nelson can't do what he's trying to do. It's discrimination towards women. So I expect Nelsons anti abortion bs to be thrown out.
As for mandating payment.I think that will be harder to throw out.
Being that the mandated ins for automobiles set a precedent.
But driving is a privilege. Health Care is not. I believe it to be a right. And you can't make someone pay for a right.Except for maybe a legal defense. And even then people get a court appointed lawyer.
So, I see this all going to the SCOTUS.
That's why it's so important to keep winning the elections.
The more the GOPers put on that bench, the longer we'll all have to wait.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
The mandate ... what's it mandating?
With the Nelson-Stupak nonsense, it's mandating women purchase "health insurance" that is prohibited from covering their health care needs.
Now that we see it's not mandating "health care coverage," what's it mandating?
I'm not sure health care is a right
Whereas health should be an Ius Naturale.
In other words, the government cannot open a site near where I live that's hazardous to my health. The government can and should open public health establishments to contain pandemics, and maintain basic sanitation (street cleaning, garbage pickup, work place safety etc).
Now that caveat aside I do think that as long as medicine is so controlled by government regulations, the AMA and the pharmaceutical companies, we should either have government health care provided (since they're part of the problem of access), or we should be able to get alternative care at our own risk (but no legal risk).
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Mainstream (not alternative, though I am not opposed) health care IS a right. As basic a human right as any other. I, and most of my family in Australia (and America) pay taxes. My brother, who is autistic and can't get a job does not and is on a pension. As far as I am concerned my family pay his wage, and we pay for his medical. Anything left over goes to any other needy Australian for equal access medical, schooling, defense (we don't really need it), police, fire, ambulance and all the infrastructure it takes to run the country.
P.S. You comment a lot.
what I can ascertain, you need a lot of health care. In my world anything you needed would be a right and you would be given all you need. Even if you were a beggar on the street with nothing. Cool, huh?
As I understand it, this bill will not be law, even if it passes. It will go to conference committee to be reconciled with the House bill. Before we act like this is the be-all and end all, we need to let the process be completed.
We currently have state mandated insurance on automobiles. Admittedly, there are some people who opt out of this if they have public transport they can count on--but they are the exception. Laws can later be enacted through reconciliation that will potentially fix the flaws in the bill.
I was a Dean supporter when he ran for president, and would have much preferred him to Obama. I, too, am skeptical of anything that feed the monster insurance companies. Nonetheless, I can see some real benefit accruing from enacting this bill.
Candideinnc
I was merely saying that this will end up in the SCOTUS.
For a number of reasons.
Good morning Candideinnc
I'd like to stay and chat. But I have to get started here.
Time to go to the beach. cya.:)
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Neo-feudalism…
Glenn Greenwald here
A generally fine piece, there is one crucial area I differ with him on.
The right claims that Obama is attempting a government takeover of the private sector.
The left sees the situation as Obama seeking a corporate takeover of the public sector.
This is stated by Ed Kilgore here from which Greenwald begins his piece.
Kilgore sees these two opposites as irreconcilable and Greenwald sees the difference as not mattering.
I think the difference is enormous.
Clinton and now Obama are following the DLC model of corporatism. There is a special catch. It is crony corporatism.
The Democrats have their group of cronies, and now the Republicans have the non cronies.
This makes the seeming right/left nature of the politic as seen in the tyranny of the duopoly as being completely trite.
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" I differ with him on.
The right claims that Obama is attempting a government takeover of the private sector."
The right 'claims' that, because that had been the preelection talking point, and now it is a tar baby. frank luntz hasn't figured any other way of cloaking the President yet.
It is laughable every time a republican trots out some cold war boogy man referenve to leftist, socialist, fascist...they are so dumbed down they don't even apply the jargon correctly.
It is clear the administration has accommodated the conservative spectrum of thought at the expense of the liberals.
The President has misrepresented, at least, and reversed at worse his position on the public option and mandates.
The deal with Pharma and stepping on the Dorgan bill.
Their approach to liquidity and the outright brazen diversion of funds to investment banks is hardly 'leftist'
My fantasy is that the President is ropeadoping wall street while Holder and the FBI build cases, so he can perpwalk blankfein and cassano next summer, with bin laden's head on a pike as a cherry on top.
Absent that,the revulsion of the liberals and the recoil of the independents stems from the obvious bias to the financial sector at painful expense of the middleclass unemployed, fresh graduates. The leucemic job market is starving wages and earning power. This downturn is not over. Tax revenues are atrophing because of the unemployed.
The issue isn't liberal or conservative any more. The republicans really haven't found an appropriate tag to put on the president that they don't have the stench of themselves.
I think this President probably agrees with corporate person hood.
In my way of supporting your these further I think you pithily made the point...
'This makes the seeming right/left nature of the politic as seen in the tyranny of the duopoly '
To that end this is a facinating read, at least for me, who has become obsessed with what the banksters have done with the collusion of our elected officials...
"A week ago we posed several questions to Goldman managing directors Lucas van Praag and David Viniar. Earlier today we received a broad response. We present it in its entirety for our readers. We will provide our counter-response shortly."
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/goldman-sach...
The body of the post is fascinating, and some of the posts in the thread are ominous.
In short the wall street insiders are feeling the heat of populist rage and are on semi hold as they watch how it is channelled, managed, defused, or deflected.
Fair comment.
The mandate deserves to be stripped out of the bill in conference.
What's driving me nuts though, is that the equation appears to be that the entire bill now revolves around this one issue and the desire is to pass anything labeled 'reform' to shore-up the public opinion of the Democratic Party in general as a bone for Democratic voters in 2010.
Notwithstanding the fundamental deep and broad problems Obama and the Democrats have to deal-with thanks to the Bush administration, this process has been horribly mismanaged from the start, and I'm afraid Obama led the way by first discounting "Universal Health Care" (which was never a realistic goal, but he conceded that straight-away--that's NOT how one plays poker).
Then Obama repeatedly downplayed the "public option" in a misguided attempt to distract Republican opposition, when all it has done is piss-off Democratic voters and encourage further GOP opposition (not they they weren't/aren't opposed 100% to any change in the status quo anyway) because they thrive on perceptions of weakness.
Add milquetoasts like Reid (as a so-called leader) into the mix and the entire momentum of the 2008 election was bound to be lost.
FYI I liked the idea of Clinton/Dean ticket (my brother preferred Dean/Clinton) and thought Obama would be better for 2012 or 2016. But Obama it was and I voted quite happily for him, despite having certain reservations--it wasn't as though Clinton or Dean were "perfect" either. C'est la vie.
I personally don't oppose the mandates. They are necessary if everyone is going to benefit from coverage. It is wrong for those capable to avoid paying into the insurance pool until they are ill. That leaves the weight of the cost on the shoulders of the sick, people the least able to afford it.
However, the flaws in the bill which need to be amended are those relating to cost controls. Without the single payer or even public option to compete with the private industry, we are at the mercy of a monopolistic industry which has shown itself unwilling to control costs or profits. This is where either we have to get what the House bill includes in its proposed legislation, or we need to pass controls through reconciliation.
Candideinnc
which was to make the insurance companies happy. See the very interesting discussion on Bill Moyers last night:
MOYERS: w/ Taibbi & Kuttner on Money and Politics
The whole leiberman thing was a deflection. There was a reason the President came to his defense in november. He called in a favor last week. What does rahm do when joe pops off? Tells reid to cave. Right. He didn't take joe to the shed. That way reid, who is a convenient whipping boy takes the shot and leiberman goes to the white house hanukkah party. Then stepping on the Dorgan bill pretty seals up that THIS is what the President wanted and what max baucus wrote for him.
I was glad to see punch back to let Marcos do the talking.
tweety is a douche.
She is an all-out war monger, and the left will not buy!
*DEAN for 2012*
Kucinich, Dean, and Franken are among a TINY number of people who could merit my support, since the vast majority of people in the United States either explicitly or implicitly support our absurdly Ponzi-schemish economic system, which has completely warped our ethics, our integrity, and our politics.
Markos seems completely stuck on the presidency of Bush. Get over it! Concentrate on helping Obama!
when he won't help us? We're finished with being treated like patsies.
He has to appeal to the moderates in the Democratic party in order to get anything passed in the Senate.
He is a true patriot and hopefully one day a majority of the American people will see that.
matthews is not completely in control of what comes from his mouth. have you ever seen him drool on TV? he gets excited, and then some idiotic comment (like the bush on mt rushmore comment, or the thrill up his leg remark, etc.) is sputtered.
think of him as a petulant and spoiled child that throws temper tantrums from time to time. when it is directed at cheney, or the right its always a classic TV moment, imo.
i wish ed would call out the real assholes on msnbc that know exactly what they are doing: joe and mika
is another I refuse to watch, he is full of shit too.
Not everything is black and white. Extremism is bad on both sides.
Matthews is a penultimate WATB. Furthermore, Joe and Mika are charter members of the same group.
Let it never be said that I am a Democrat…
The tyranny of the duopoly.
The NYT reports Ben Nelson (R-Aetna) has been satisfied, neo-feudalism is here to stay, read it here
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Matthew and others of his media generation have always been threatened by internet technology, which has rendered him a irrelevant dinosaur. He knows this and takes it personal and this is his way to fight back.
than a back-seat Bircher.
Good job, Ed & Markos.
What Ed Shultz is really saying to MSNBC is, "I'm going to say it like I see it, and if someone upstairs doesn't like it; well, I can always go back to my top 10 Nationwide radio gig. No skin off my back."
(Shultz is starting to get mad, and he's not going to take it anymore.)
for $115 Million? Not much in my opinion.
We need to break this bullshit fantasy idea that Barack needs to "hear" us and Congress needs to "hear" us.
Bullshit! They hear. We must understand this; THEY DON'T FUCKING CARE!
Tweety is an example of the DLC/Corprocrat propaganda structure. He is COMCAST and GE. C'mon man! This whole fucking fiasco points to Democrat corruption.
Stop blaming Republicans for what the Democrats fail to do and see that Barack O-fuckin'Bama don't give a fuck about you.
http://TheFrankFactor.com
Aggressive Progressive and Vertebrate
the TV is going to fire Rahm . . impeach Bush . .blah blah
Give Obama the kick in the ass he deserves for being a con man . . etc . . and now a word from Ipod . . watch TV . . watch the big bobble heads and their guests from both sides fix everyone's problem's . . "we talk for you . . on the Tee Vee! Call my agent for my next booking! Yah! We really care man!
Lieberman's been doing the WH's bidding in my opinion. Proof will be in the "never to come" threat to his chairmanship. The deal was made last summer, backroom like pharma with insurance lobyists, and the whitehouse has been steering it that way ever since.
If we could ONLY get a real, all out, no holds barred, INVESTIGATION of the C Street CULT, we could go a LONG LONG WAY in routing OUT the corruption in government.
When you have a CULT, based on the premise that the MARKET IS GOD, the HITLER CONCEPT, has ties to Hitler, Bin Laden, Pol Pot, and the Mafia, who BELIEVE that "GOD aka the 'Hand of the Market'" CHOSE them to PROSPER with none of the laws of the land OR GOD OR NATURE or HUMANITY applying to THEM, who are doing their dirty little deeds around the world, influencing and interfering in world governments, and more that hasn't come OUT yet, SOMEONE needs to stop them NOW!
The CULT includes current and past members of the Senate, the House of Representatives, Governors, and MORE. They are MOSTLY Republican but also includes many Blue Dogs and actual Democrats.
We all know about Coburn, Ensign, DeMint, Wamp, Stupak, Pitts, Schuler, Doyle, Brownbeck, Pryor, Grassley, Inhofe, SUSAN COLLINS, (wonder how she got accepted? Token female or COVER?), Bill nelson D of FL AND Ben Nelson of NE, Wolf. And the list goes ON AND ON. J.C. Watts is ONE.
Is it any WONDER that the 145 bus loads of C Street Sponsored, FOX NOISE Sponsored, Dick Armey PAID FOR "tea baggers" work so very HARD to convince themselves and others that Obama is a "Nazi, Socialist, Communist" etc, when they, themselves are tied to Hitler, etc. and that if and WHEN their "tea bagger puppet brigade members ", REALLY FIND OUT THE TRUTH, they WILL turn on the CULT?
This CULT goes back to the 30s, so their CLAIM TO THE FOUNDING FATHERS is kind of OUT THE WINDOW.
http://michiganmessenger.com/23484/stupak-den...
http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2009...
http://www.nyegateway.com/2009/07/senator-ens...
now.
And yes, I'm not forgetting Glenn Becak and the gang at FAUX. They don't pretend to be anything but what they are.
Thank you " Matthews. Chris is so unpredictable and rambles & babbles so much sometimes I wonder what he's been smoking. Chris is hot then cold, up then down, left then right, black then white....he is really too full of himself to even to let his guests answer him..he spits and sputters, talks over them, interrupts them, often becoming uninteligible & incoherent. I think sometimes he says off the wall things just to get his program a little attention. I don't think many people watch him anyway. Thanks Ed, for your honesty and integrity and for sticking by the working class.You mean alot to us and we're on your side too.
Woody McBreairty
'Nuff said.
Please allow me a (time dependent on your reading speed) or so. I am a dual US/Australian citizen (read: US citizen), first generation Australian with all family but immediate in the States. As most of my family live in the States, and as the USA is apparently the greatest, most superpowerful (spellcheck says this is not a real word) and influential nation the world has ever known I am compelled to keep tabs on the political landscape of (Y)OUR fair nation, as difficult a task it is. I watch and read right, left and mainstream infonewsjournalblogcableprintedinterweb stuff until I'm blue in the brain. I probably see more of US (and Australian) current affairs than 90% of Aussies and Yanks.
I have a couple of concerns...
Iraq - What the hell. False war based on a false premise. Lie upon lie. At least Saddam could control the joint. No Bin Laden there. Many killed for oil and profit. BAD.
Afghanistan - OK, Bin Laden was there. Maybe. To say "we" overthrew the Taliban to me is nothing more than an invasion of a sovereign country. 100,000 troops to control 100 Taliban (who, unfortunately are NONE OF THE USA's BUSINESS).. Seriously? Many have died for no reason at all. BAD.
Pakistan and Iran. Please no. BAD.
HR3962 - Started out as an admirable bill which would seemingly counteract the terrible damage begun by Reagan in 1961. Healthcare for all? No, it's a bailout for the health insurance companies. As the only industry that we the people keep pumping steady money into even during a recession they really need it. It has turned into a disgusting mutant which, as gutted as I feel to write, should be vetoed by Obama, and killed before it delivers more of America's treasure to the private sector. BAD.
Banks. If you can't run a business properly just die. You are never too big, and NO PRIVATELY OWNED COMPANY DESERVES TAXPAYER MONEY EVER, LET ALONE WHEN THE TAXPAYERS ARE IN SO MUCH DEBT. Only government is too big to fail. BAD.
Last, but opposite to least:
Obama - His rhetoric was uplifting, transforming, and an inspiration not only to America, but the world. With wide eyes and open hearts the world fully expected change. Unfortunately rhetoric is all Obama can deliver. To think I had so much faith in that dude. Health care for all, end the wars, all that great stuff. A prosperous America. Pffft. With my hopes dashed, I have to assert that President Obama is a joke, a puppet and a liar. BAD.
Alright, I said "a couple of concerns". I have many more than this. Historically we, the "huddled masses", have been treated (despite our acceptance) like garbage, numbers, liabilities, casualties and assets. We need to stop all of this, but without being one of the top 0.5% I will readily admit I have no idea how.
Prez got a peace prize. Woot, woot.
isn't the most unsubtle hint you can give a world leader, I don't know what is.
For the most part I agree with you Herkimer except I just don't think Obama is a liar , naive and maybe even a bit foolish maybe . Given the huge money and that three quarters of the House and Senate ... our government , are bought off and absolutely corrupt I do not think he has all that much power , plain and simple . Even worse , now we the people are getting pissed off , blaming him personally and feeling let down ... even our backing is fading . The corruption , and road blocks Obama faces ... It's likely that it's even worse than it appears .Maybe I'm wrong about him but I just don't think so .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
Liar was a little harsh. But do you think he can look at himself in the mirror these days? Yes, blue dogs, Republicans and LIEberman (why is he a chairman of anything??!?!?!?) have dictated the chain of events.
Thing is.. If Bush and his cronies had wanted this health care bill (in all it's original glory) while they were in power it would have been law by now, probably single payer lol.
Schultz doesn't care who he pisses off in his quest for the truth(he laughs of how Obama no longer allows him to sit front row at the Presidential press conferences and that he wasn't invited to the White House Christmas Party).
When righty's(or full of shit lefty's) dare invade Schultz' radio show with lies and talking points Ed really lets them have it.
After getting one from the whitehouse.
I told him I would not be voting for him again. I told him if the insurance companies are involved it will not be any good. And besides if I wanted to get screwed I would have voted republican because you know for sure they will!
WE need to make these people so miserable they will just quit!
We need to protest everything every place they go.
We need to agravate, annoy, we need to find ways to irritate them on a daily basis if not multiple time a day.
What can we do to make their lives a living hell? Like they have done to us!
do it all the time, brother. We can do it too.
Matthews knows better but he is a shameless butt hugger who likes to suck up to the big boys and score points , that's all . He didn't get where he is by having integrity . People use him and he uses them . It's politics , that's todays MSM .As for Ed Shultz , I think he's great and whether you agree with him / like him or not he is sincere , passionate and does have integrity , love his show , he cracks me up .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
Matthews is a riddle wrapped in a conundrum wrapped in crap. I agree with some of the stuff he says, but I think the stuff that makes sense to thinking people is a total random fluke sort of like an infinite monkey/typewriter scene.
Remember, according to Chris everyone gets Christmas money and goes straight out and spends it on books. The last time I got Christmas money I was twelve and spent it on a rocket.
Sigh.
I have to keep reminding myself of that analogy about "turning the Titanic around..." It's not a quick 180 by any means...and this has NOT been the 180 I have dreamed of. Just maybe we are turning this ship around ...little by damn little. Maybe that's the way Washington works. It shouldn't, but then the quick way would be a bloody revolution; and I don't think any of us want that.
The really bad shit I'm hearing is from the judicial branch..and are we to be surprised? After all, the last administration is responsible for poisoning that branch for years to come.
I'm still waiting to hear from the Health Care Reform bill. Bits and pieces scare me. But then I hear that's the way Canada started with their single payer system, so I don't lose all hope.
Hope I'm around to be proud of my government one day. I seriously doubt it. I only have another forty years or so at the most.
Matthews is an idiot. Even people he agrees with, he won't allow to finish a sentence. He's a pompous, slobbering joke. How he's maintained a show for this long is a puzzle.
I agree. I would have to be paid handsomely to sit across the desk from him while he is spitting all over the darn place. Even then I would want a screen between us! He must be related to some big corporate SOB to have this job at all.
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