Blue America Welcomes Doug Tudor (FL-12)

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In 2008 Doug Tudor was the Democratic nominee in an impossible race against an entrenched, powerful incumbent, multimillionaire Adam "Howdy Doody Nimrod" Putnam. An outspoken grassroots progressive, Doug ran without the backing of the DCCC and with the animus of the Florida powerbroker Debbie Wasserman Schultz. And yet... Doug did as well against Putnam as any of the losing Democratic candidates-- other than Joe Garcia-- that the DCCC and Wasserman Schultz did back. Conservative Democrat Christine Jennings got boatloads of DCCC-inspired cash and wound up with 37% of the vote. Conservative Democratic incumbent Tim Mahoney, a Rahm and Debbie special, raised over $3 million and barely managed to break 40%. And although the netroots had to force Wasserman Schultz' hand, she eventually backed Annette Taddeo and Raul Martinez-- with hundreds of thousand of dollars-- and each got 42% of the vote on election day. Doug-- with nothing but grassroots support-- and a budget of $109,851 (against Putnam's eye-popping $2,054,571) wound up with 43%. Imagine if he had had Democratic Party support! (As Chris Bowers reported yesterday, the DCCC spent over $14 million on Blue Dogs and other conservatives who vote against Democratic initiatives as a matter of course.)

Well, with Putnam leaving Congress in the hopes of plaguing Florida consumers on the way to a gubernatorial run in the future, the DCCC did decide to pump some money into FL-12, but instead of helping Doug, they got railroaded into backing Blue Dog Allen Boyd's handpicked corporate shill-- and fellow Blue Dog-- Lori Edwards. Lori is the only non-incumbent Blue Dog that caucus has backed so far this cycle. They gave her a lot of money and introduced her to all the worst and most corrupt corporate lobbyists who buy votes from congressmembers with no ethics and then claimed they had to endorse her because she has so much money and Doug doesn't. (She's taken in an unimpressive $176,451 so far and has virtually no backing on the ground.)

Today Doug is being officially endorsed by Blue America and he will join us for a live blog session at Crooks and Liars at 2:30pm (11:30 am, PT). Last week, after his first debate with Lori Edwards, I made a case for his candidacy here but today we get to hear directly from Doug why he deserves support from the progressive community.

Doug's military record is a real inspiration, even for an old peacenik like myself, and I urge you to look it over carefully to help you gage what kind of a man we're talking about. But what has brought him to Blue America's attention is where he stands on the issues that are most important to us. Like I said, he's happy to answer questions on all the issues we're concerned with. Here are some direct quotes Doug has given me in interviews over time:

On the Economy: “During the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, the federal government has to take the lead. Now is not the time to limit spending nor is it the time to talk about reducing the debt created by 30 years of Reaganomics.”

“The Federal Reserve needs to be audited, and the Congress needs to fully assume its role as the overseer of the Executive Branch’s regulatory functions.”

“I support reinstating Glass–Steagall provisions which prohibit banks from owning other financial companies.”

On Iraq: “It’s way past time to declare victory and come home. Like most things the Bush Administration did, the mantra of “We’ll stand down when they stand up” is absolutely backward. The Iraqi government will stand up once we stand down. Bring the troops home now.”

On Afghanistan: “We need to remove our forces and use counter-terrorism tactics instead of counter-insurgency. Only the Afghan government can successfully prosecute a counter-insurgency campaign.”

On Energy Policy: “People need to understand that America’s reliance on fossil fuels is a national security issue, where countries hostile to America can control our ability to determine our own future. Renewable and clean energy will allow us to control our own destiny, as well as creating innumerable jobs and supporting industries.”

“I support Cap and Trade, and I am not afraid to call it Cap and Tax. I believe we need to Cap (limit) carbon emissions and Tax (fine) polluters. If someone pollutes by littering we fine them. Why shouldn’t we do the same with industry and other major polluters?”

On Equality: “I support marriage equality and the Employee Nondiscrimination Act. I would advocate to rescind and vote to rescind Don’t Ask Don’t Tell and the Defense of Marriage Act.”

Doug is a state leader of Operation Free, an organization of veterans who have been emphasizing the relationship between unsustainable energy and environmental policies and unjustifiable wars. Take a look and please consider making a contribution to Doug's campaign here:

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digby's picture

Thanks for coming.

howieklein's picture

Doug, welcome to Crooks and Liars and welcome to Blue America. Sorry we were a little late getting started. Our PAC is very excited to be endorsing you today. Let me cut right to what's foremost in almost everyone's mind right now. We know the current incumbent Adam Putnam has been demonizing healthcare reform. But if you were in Congress today, representing the same exact people he represents, what would your approach be? Beyond just how you would vote, what would you be doing differently than Putnam?

TeamTudor's picture

Thank you. I am very proud to accept BlueAmerica’s endorsement, and I am happy to get a chance to introduce myself to the national netroots activists. As we’ve seen with Bart Stupak, one conservative Democrat can impact the entire national debate, and we need to be sure that he doesn’t gain a conservative ally in Florida’s 12th Congressional District.

To answer your question, I support John Conyer’s HR676 – National Single Payer Healthcare. I believe the current bill, though flawed, will allow us to move incrementally toward that goal. As for Putnam and me, the difference has always been crystal clear. Adam votes to protect his corporate paymasters and their obscene profits, and I would vote to protect working families and their financial viability.

If I were in Congress today, I would be working with other Progressives to ensure that we get the very best bill possible. After passage, I would continue to work toward bettering the bill with future legislation.


Your Brother, Doug

John Amato's picture

We are very excited to see jump in...

TeamTudor's picture

Thanks, John. I am definitely a fan of your site.


Your Brother, Doug

howieklein's picture

As we noted in the post, you're a state leader of the military veterans working on the Operation Free project that ties sound environmental and energy policies into national security. Can you tell us a little about that and tell us why the folks in Hillsborough and Polk counties should care about something they might view as abstract compared to the housing crisis and jobs crisis?

TeamTudor's picture

As someone who has spent his entire adult life in the profession of arms, I look at many issues from a national security perspective. Ever since I first went ashore in Beirut as part of the excavation team following the 1983 bombings to my final deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan in 2007, my entire career was focused on the Middle East. The only reason that is true is due to America’s dependence on fossil fuels. So to me, it is important to do everything we can to responsibly lessen and eventually eliminate that dependence.

For the folks in FL-12, having a national energy policy that focuses on renewable and clean energies will allow us to attract large and small innovators to our area, creating the long-awaited I4 High Tech Corridor. Florida’s natural beauty and temperate climate makes us a desirable place to live, so we have to embrace those technologies that will also make Florida a profitable place to do business. These new industries will improve the overall quality of life vis-à-vis the job and housing markets.

Also on this point, Florida needs representatives that absolutely, positively will not open our coastline to oil drilling. Tourism is far too important to Florida’s economy to risk the inevitable pollution disaster that coastline drilling would bring to our pristine shores.


Your Brother, Doug

howieklein's picture

Doug, when you meet with the voters in FL-12 do you give them the same answers you're giving us. I mean, some people say supporting mariage equality is too "radical" for a red-leaning district.

TeamTudor's picture

When I first started campaigning in March 2008, I learned quickly that I am not able to point my message to a particular audience. In other words, I give the same answers each time.


Your Brother, Doug

graymatter's picture

I mean, isn't she a Democrat and all? ;-p

TeamTudor's picture

We are different in that she has chosen to side with the Conservatives who are blocking the change we all worked so hard for in 2008. It's tough to know where she stands on the issues currently, but in the state house her main ally was Adam Putnam.


Your Brother, Doug

stryk3r's picture

As a resident of FL-12 and progressive, our first goal should be to make sure Doug Tudor is the Democratic candidate for the election. If only every voter would see the video of your first appearance with Lori Edwards, there wouldn't be much of a contest. However this isn't possible. So my question is, what are you going to do Mr. Tudor to make sure that our local Democrats here in Polk Co. and Hillsborough Co. see the incredible differences between you and Mrs. Edwards? Thank you!

TeamTudor's picture

Thank you.


Your Brother, Doug

mudshark's picture

My question relates to immigration.
What is your position on immigration "reform".
And, are you any relation to Joel Tudor?


What is your conceptual, continuity?

TeamTudor's picture

The easy answer first -- I don't know Joel Tudor.

Next, our immigration reform needs to seal our borders, enforce current law, respect individuals and their families, and provide a tough, but fair, pathway for those undocumented workers who are currently here.


Your Brother, Doug

digby's picture

There is a lot of sturm and drang in the media and the political establishment about the budget deficit. Much of this is being propelled by a billion dollar endowed foundation run by conservative Pete Peterson, a man who seems to crawl out of the woodwork when Democrats are in the majority to halt any efforts to move government in a progressive direction.(The wars, for instance, never seem to factor into his calculations.)

What's your take on the politics of government deficits and how do you explain this complicated issue to your constituents?

TeamTudor's picture

Wasteful spending has to be addressed. Government spending does not equal wasteful spending. We have to use the collective power of the federal government, including spending, to help our economy. Those who constantly harp about smaller government and less spending do so without looking at the last 30 years of Reaganomics.


Your Brother, Doug

TeamTudor's picture

Are We All Done? Are There Any Other Bids?


Your Brother, Doug

howieklein's picture

Yes, I want to hear your answer to that question stryk3r asked above about teh difefrences between you and the Blue Dog

TeamTudor's picture

Fair enough. Lori Edwards has not ran as a Democrat since she dropped out of the Congressional race in 2000 to run for a non-partisan office. When she recently said she didn't know where I stood on the issues, I asked her "Why not? I have been running to represent you for over two years. Perhaps you should spend more time around Democrats."

She immediately went after and gained the Blue Dog endorsement. These are the folks stopping our progress as they get in bed with the Republican party of "no."

Back in the 90's she consistenly got awards from Chambers of Commerce and Building Associations, which we know are not friends of the Progressive movement.


Your Brother, Doug

mudshark's picture

If you do get elected. And after some time and you establish a voting record. Would you be willing to return here for another discussion on your voting record?


What is your conceptual, continuity?

TeamTudor's picture

Absolutely.


Your Brother, Doug

graymatter's picture

Doug, you've been to the theatres in which our warriors are fighting right this minute. How does that color your perspective of these wars, and what do you believe is the best solution for them?

TeamTudor's picture

I believe one has to travel outside of their home area to fully understand that simplistic answers won't suffice. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are very different, and that is why I don't agree that a counter-insurgency effort will prevail in Afghanistan.

If you give a troop a mission to accomplish, he or she will always do their best to accomplish that mission. Unfortunately, sometimes the mission is not a valid one. We are never going to have Jeffersonian democracies in the Arab and Persian nations of the Middle East.

We have to be willing to totally review and revamp our efforts, bringing a robust diplomatic effort to the theatre.


Your Brother, Doug

John Amato's picture

The DCCC seems to think the only criteria for being in Congress is being able to raise money. How will your life experience serve you (and your constituents) if you're elected?

TeamTudor's picture

The DCCC's logic is flawed, or else we could just compare bank accounts and forego elections. Campaigns are hard, as you can't just run TV ads. You have to be on the ground, meeting voters, hearing their concerns, and talking to them about solutions.

I am a working class man, and my life experiences, my home, and my checkbooks better reflect those of my neighbors.


Your Brother, Doug

Andy K's picture

Thanks for dropping in, Doug!

What do you see as the hot-button local issues (district, state or regional) in FL-12 that someone like me, in Michigan, wouldn't be very familiar?

TeamTudor's picture

Some of the local issues that have a federal connection include oil drilling off the coast of Florida, local high-speed rail, and gerrymandered districts.

I am against further drilling. I support high-speed rail. We will have a fair-districts initiative on the ballot in November which I favor.


Your Brother, Doug

mudshark's picture

What's your position on a timeline for withdrawal from both Iraq and Afghanistan? And do you think invading Iraq was justified?


What is your conceptual, continuity?

TeamTudor's picture

We never should have invaded Iraq, no matter what the eventual outcome is. I support withdrawing troops now from both Iraq and Afghanistan. We would still be in a position to advance anti-terrorism efforts without mucking up the local anti-insurgency fight.


Your Brother, Doug

digby's picture

Our timing is off today.

I was struck yesterday by the anniversary of the invasion of Iraq. Seven years, so many lives and we're still there amidst political chaos, violence and a very fragile social fabric.

What's your assessment of our ability to extricate ourselves from that mess? Is it going to happen?

digby's picture

think alike ... ;)

TeamTudor's picture

It has to happen, and we Progressives have to push the President from the left. I understand the President not wanting to immediately begin a full-scale withdrawal, but we have to speed up our timeline or else we risk another event that some will deem should extend our presence.


Your Brother, Doug

ron's picture

lately about voting out bluedogs and regressive republicans lately and I encourage the voters in FL-12 to vote for Doug Todor.

howieklein's picture

Maybe this is a good time to remind everyone that Doug's campaign can use some help in the contribution department. Blue America is trying to help him raise enough money to get his message out. Can you help? Here's the place to do it.

ron's picture

but I'm on SS and live month to month and come up short everytime something needs to be fixed. Maybe in the future.

Jacqrat's picture

What can you tell me about Your district, FL-12. Demographic make-up, regional quirks, etc.

How strong is the progressive presence there? Where do progressives go online to get their news?


Your right to earn billions of dollars does not trump my right to drink pure water and breathe clean air.

TeamTudor's picture

FL-12 is made up of Eastern Hillsborough County (40%) which has bedroom communities for Tampa. The largest portion is Polk County which is mostly rural. Dems have a 52-48 registration advantage, but many of those Dems are Reagan Dems. My military background plays well with those swing voters.

The Progressive community is robust and energized after the 2008 elections.


Your Brother, Doug

howieklein's picture

I'm guessing that's the biggest issue in Polk and Hillsborough counties. When you're meeting with voters, what do you tell them? Do Democrats and independents and Republicans you talk to have markedly different perspectives about job creation?

TeamTudor's picture

The economy is topic number one. Republicans know this is an topic which they cannot discuss without complicity, so they always try to turn the subject to social issues.

No matter who I speak with, I constantly stress that we need to bring high tech, clean energy jobs to the area. Folks throughout America work 51 weeks out of the year to come to Florida for one week of vacation. With the right incentives, we can show them the way to live in our vacation paradise year round.


Your Brother, Doug

digby's picture

It seems as though the biggest problem facing progressives is the success of the conservative movement's demonization of government. It also seems as though it works even as people depend upon government services and expect more. It's become a sort of tic --- a reflex.

Do you think this is reversible? If so, what approach do you take to give people the sense that government isn't the enemy?

TeamTudor's picture

Digby, I guess the main way we have to do this is use Lakoff's lessons on framing. We cannot buy into the Conservatives' ideas and language. We simply have to continue to speak truth and to call out the falsehoods of the Conservatives at every level.

I personally talk about roads, social services, electrical grids, safety standards, etc., etc. -- that are all benefits of government.


Your Brother, Doug

mudshark's picture

Do you think Faux Nooz should be held accountable for reporting untruths? I understand the right to Free Speech. But I don't understand how someone like Murdoch can do what he does with the likes of Beck.
I guess I'm asking, Are you in favor of a more honest form of news. And do you think liars should be penalized/fined for conning the public?
Thanks for stopping by Doug. I'm glad you said you'd be willing to come back. I wish I would have asked that question to Speaker Pelosi.
Now, I make it a point of asking everyone.
Have a great day and good luck. You'll need it in Florida.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

TeamTudor's picture

The right of free speech doesn't include the right to be taken seriously. We should challenge the lies, sue if it rises to libel or slander, but otherwise just keep providing solutions. People, even Conservatives, realize at some level that the Republican Party and their Blue Dog accomplices are not providing solutions.


Your Brother, Doug

John Amato's picture

Blue America 2010

Chip in if you can.

TeamTudor's picture

Here, here. We are never going to outraise our opponents, but I am proud of the hundreds and hundreds of supporters we have that are chipping in whatever amount they can afford. It is making a difference.


Your Brother, Doug

pissed off patricia's picture

I graduated from Hillsborough High back during the days when we had to dodge dinosaurs on our way to and from school. I am a long time resident of Florida and it's so nice to see a true progressive in our state. Where were you made and how can we get more statesmen like you?

I wish you the best of luck in your campaign from down here on the beautiful Treasure Coast.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

TeamTudor's picture

Thanks, Patricia. I grew up in Kentucky. After an adulthood of traveling in the military, I chose Florida to be home.


Your Brother, Doug

pissed off patricia's picture

Perhaps I missed it but could you tell me your stand on the Florida environment, in particular the coastal areas.

I didn't pick Florida, it just sort of picked me. I moved to Florida with my parents as a little girl and have been in the state for the large majority of my life. Hurricanes and Republicans can't scare me away.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Jacqrat's picture

He answered the coastal drilling question, here.


Your right to earn billions of dollars does not trump my right to drink pure water and breathe clean air.

pissed off patricia's picture

Thank you so much for that info. I got here late as usual and didn't have time to read the previous comments before typing my question. His answer made me smile. Not many pols in Florida make that happen.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

TeamTudor's picture

My daughter has her first Military Ball this evening, so I have to turn to my fatherly duties. In closing, thanks again to BlueAmerica and to all of my fellow Progressives throughout the country. I appreciate all you have done, all you are doing, and all you will do. You Rock!
Lastly, Go Kentucky Wildcats!


Your Brother, Doug

digby's picture

... so much for stopping by. And thank you for running for congress.

pissed off patricia's picture

He had me until that last line. Doug, you're in Gator country now.

Thank you for sharing your time with us.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

stryk3r's picture

Thank you Doug, I hope to see you soon and volunteering for your campaign!

howieklein's picture

I've been so concerned about the DCCC trying to bum-rush that Blue Dog into the nomination that I haven't been paying much attention to what the Republicans are doing. Are they in lock step behind some Adam Putnam clone or is their a teabaggy challenger too?

TeamTudor's picture

Quick reply. Putnam's chosen succesor is doing well, but he does have grassroots competition on the right. The teabagger isn't raising money, but he has won county-wide before, so we'll have to see.


Your Brother, Doug

howieklein's picture

Doug, thanks for coming on today. Sorry about the timing screw-ups. Let's meet back here after you win the primary on August 24.

John Amato's picture

C&L for an hour.


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